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[Zee]

I specifically would like to know why many psychics are off with timing, since this is a biggie for many.

wait, you KNOW cookie? Tell us more. Honestly, that is the vibe that I get from most readers, and I honestly think it is part of the reason why they are so innacurate. Ive read that Cookie is also slow in readings as well.

No, I never said I knew her. I called and we talked about a reading, which never happened.  If you email Cookie, she has an assistant (which I found out later) and some things transpired, which made me say what I did. Cookie may be all that and a basket of strawberries, but I will never get a reading from her. She is on my avoid list, but she comes highly rated on this forum, so good luck. (EDIT: The Cookie I was referencing has her own site, not Cookie Spiritualist Reader on Keen.)

I too have felt that psychics are dishonest, but not ALL can be placed in the same pot of boiling water. I've talked to some that were very helpful and instrumental in helping me see the light of day and there are many who are either generous with their time or generous with their knowledge. It's all a crap shoot.

[SomethingBetter]

Cookie (Spirtualist Reader) and Cookie who is some psychic in Detroit with her own website are two different people.

Spiritualist Reader Cookie only reads on Keen. She has a profile on Advisor Universe, but rarely logs on.

[elcaliente]

Zee, thanks for your vote of confidence.  I must admit when I first started calling psychics I had no idea what I ws doing.  Most of my "garden-variety" psychic referenced were from the beginning,  I didn't research their speciality and even going back now, some simply don't state.  Most of them read cystals, runes, energy, aura etc.  However, at one point in the recent past, I started reading about readers that had some sort of reputation for calling outcomes, predicting contact timeframes within reason...and went about assembling my team of advisors.  To date, that team consists of 20 individuals - some tarot card readers, some empaths (I particularly like them because I get a sense of where my ex's head is at - but it does mean you have to keep the inquries coming because, as you say, they get a snapshot of emotions, that are inclined to change rapidly.  It is only over a period of time, tuning into these empaths, that you can see a trend of emotional inclination.  But even then that doesn't predict an outcome necessarily).  I have a larger number of Clairvoyant/clairaudient/clairsentients in my team, some having empathic abilities as well that I lean on for the big picture and rest more heavily on their predictions for outcome.  And then to back them up with what I term as a less-subjectively driven tarot card readers, that are working with probability when drawing cards, but the images on the cards are less subject to misinterpretation (if you get a good tarot card reader).  So, the team has front liners, midfielders and full backs, as it were.

Now, as to timing, I look at timeframe predictions as milemarkers.  They are not the destination, but they do help to give you an idea of how far away you are from your destination = "outcome" .  If the destination or "outcome" is predicted to occur within a couple of weeks, then who cares about a milemarker - before you have chance to read it you are already arriving at the outcome. 

Where milemarkers come into play is when the "outcome" is predicted to occur down the road, and therefore the milemarkers are really important to make sure you know you are still on the path.  By the way, milemarkers don;t have to come in the form of contact times or dates, but I think if I were given an outcome that is more than 2 months hence, then I would definitely be crafting my query so that I could get some sense of a sign along the way that the psychic is on the right route.  Those signs could be detected by remote viewing, or clairvoyants "seeing" a particular scene...that when you happen upon it you can say, "aha, so that's what she/he meant...ah, so I am on the right path after all"!

In my case, if a reader gave me a prediction of more than 6 months out *for a relationship reading*- I would disregard the reading as a positive one - simply because there is too much time between then and now for me and the subject to stay on the current path and too many opportunities for free will to change the course.

Hell no it doesn’t happen, but that is what the big search is for.  I agree. I am a bit more demanding too.

And BellaLife, that’s part of my point.  You never asked about timeframes, but were given them nonetheless.  Even if one never asks about timing during readings and the psychic tells you one, shouldn’t the psychic be held liable for misinformation?  Isn’t this mainly the reason psychics are deemed inaccurate even if they tap into the situation correctly?

Personally, I have found, I get better readings with accurate predictions from Clairvoyance, Clairsentience, Clairaudience specialists, with a sprinkling of tools throughout, so for me, smee2 your numbers seem really good.

Empaths, IMO would be the least accurate over time, because you'd have to read with them every minute of every day, due to emotional fluctuations. Emotions can change as easily as blinking.  And isn’t remote viewing a tool like tarot cards?  Empaths as well as CV/CA/CS can use it nor do you have to be psychic, and I’ve read it’s considered more of a science than psychictry. I haven’t come across any RVs myself, but don't really think I have a need for them either.

[Furah2fun]

This is a very interesting issue. I remember asking several psychics cause they kept predicting marriage, as to when that would happen. They kept saying May 2012, august 2012 etc etc. The reason I was asking at the time was because I wanted to move on (which I am doing now, cause I can't wait forever) if it was going to take eons. They kept saying, "its so close, don't move on...you will regret it etc...and that a new guy will not make you happy like him."  Given the current state, I wish I would moved on a year ago and not wasted time.

However, if for some shocking reason we do get married, then I will credit these psychics cause the ultimate outcome would manifest. Does everyone agree to that?

[elcaliente]

I had one prediction that included a phrase "and I wouldn't be surprised if X asks you to marry her/him then" in my goodie bag of readings.  Frankly, in my opinion, I don't need a psychic to predict that to me.  Just get me to the "outcome" which is in the relationship and back on track, and we'll take it from there. Now, of course, if your reader was a clairaudient and he/she heard the significant other precticing his proposal speech, then that's another idea.  In my opinion, the term marriage in readings is another way for psychics to demonstrate the depth of intention of the subject.  In other words, if there is a reconnection, it's not going to be a flash in the pan.

This is a very interesting issue. I remember asking several psychics cause they kept predicting marriage, as to when that would happen. They kept saying May 2012, august 2012 etc etc. The reason I was asking at the time was because I wanted to move on (which I am doing now, cause I can't wait forever) if it was going to take eons. They kept saying, "its so close, don't move on...you will regret it etc...and that a new guy will not make you happy like him."  Given the current state, I wish I would moved on a year ago and not wasted time.

However, if for some shocking reason we do get married, then I will credit these psychics cause the ultimate outcome would manifest. Does everyone agree to that?

[Furah2fun]

Agreed. I would happy to just know when the relationship is back on track with forward movement, not back and forth etc.

One of the readers, actually was clairaudient and clairvoyant...so she saw the proposal and described it to me. But honestly, who knows.  My beleif in psychic powers and intuition is directly in conflict with my profession (attorney), so I confuse myself sometimes. I want to beleive, I really do, but only if the facts indicate as such.

[BellaLife]

@ Joedie.....I with you on this part you wrote:.......... "I am also not too thrilled with the free will excuse/reason. I personally believe a good reader will see past the free will and give the right outcome. If the universe has something in store for me 5 years down the road my free will should not prevent it. Maybe delay it but not prevent".

[BellaLife]

Sorry....meant to type Jordie.....typo....oh I have many typo's.....lol..... fingers faster than my brain!

[Zee]

I made this correction on my previous post, thanks to SomethingBetter.

The Cookie I was referencing has her own site, not Cookie Spiritualist Reader.  Also, the Cookie I mentioned told me to take a picture of my palm I think, or something like that (take a scan or image of something - I can't recall) and mail it to her and once she gets it with the money, she calls to set up an appointment.   This is not the Keen Cookie SR.

[Zee]

This whole timing thread totally makes me think of that movie Demi Moore was in about the same thing. It was the Tales From The Crypt: Dead Right episode.  Cathy, played by Demi Moore was a gold digging waitress and a psychic told her that if she marries this guy named Charlie, he would inherit a lot of money.  That's all fine and good, but Charlie was one huge, mound, of disgusting flab of a human being - just nasty.  The psychic kept telling Cathy that as a psychic she was right, she was always right (I know I've heard this before).  The part I remember most is when Cathy went back to the psychic and told her, the prediction didn't come true and that she was just a fraud, a phony. Cathy was just pissed off and said she was through wasting money and through with psychics, then stormed out.  Nevertheless, the psychic continued to calmly tell her, the husband Charlie, would inherit a lot of money and then he would die. Of course, the psychic misinterpreted what Cathy really wanted and although she was right, there was an unexpected twist in the end and Charlie did inherit money, but not in the expected way that would make anything think they lived happily ever after. If you haven’t seen it, I don't want to ruin it for you but you can see that section of the movie on YouTube, if interested.

[BellaLife]

@Zee....lol....forget you tube....what end up happening?

[Zee]

Well, Cathy walks into a store and was the 1,000,000th customer and won 1 Million Dollars herself.  She went back to the apartment to rub it in his fat face and his attitude was if I can’t have you, no man will and he killed her. That was how he inherited money, because he was her next of kin.  He was then executed by the state for stabbing her to death.  You should see it, he really butchered her.

The psychic totally missed all this pertinent stuff in the middle of how she gets rich. Typical.

[BellaLife]

Wow! Thanks Zee.......certainly no happy ending there!

[elcaliente]

Zee, so would I.  Some of the contact events have passed for a few of my readings, and it is disappointing, especially when I have not done anything, that I am aware of, to cause a delay.  However, in the bigger picture, perhaps I have  . 

Now, I had been told by some psychics that calling too many psychics, especially those that work with spirit guides can annoy spirits, because constant calling suggest that the querent does not have faith in the Universe and the time that it takes to accomplish what is predicted.  I can tell you that when I heard that I got a little concerned because I was contacting empaths to monitor my significant other's general mood frequently. If you don't check in frequently, the empaths information can be misleading because it is akin to taking a snapshot of a movie.  You get only one scene, and it is difficult to know how the movie ends if you are going to base it upon one scene. 

It caused me to take pause and try not to call as much.  However, in a recent reading, when the reader admitted that the timelines she had offered me in the past had been pushed back, I mentioned that perhaps all of my calls were responsible - that perhaps since I had been getting frequent readins, I had inadvertently caused these delays.  Hearing that, she was quick to ask me why I felt that way.  When I shared what I had been told she said she had never heard of that.  If memory serves me well it was Gaylene that I was reading with at the time.  I consider her a reputable reader, so I am now inclined to think that the story that we affect delays ourselves by questioning the spirit guides must not be the reason at all. 

In fact, after my reading with Gaylene, I did a little research, albeit on the Internet where there is allsorts of information, but no way to validate much of it, but I do recall reading about spirit guides being here to help us, and spirit guides being very patient and not inclined to anger...... so it might just be an old wives tale after all.

Consequently, the way I tend to look at the delays is like this.  The Universe sees a path that I am on.  My significant other is on his path too.  (Sadly, we used to be on the same path, but I digress).  For now, we are on two paths.  The Universe decides to bring us together, when we have learned/acquired/accomplished whatever task(s) we need to in order for us to co-exist and to prosper together as a couple on the same path.  Now, I can easily say that I did nothing that I am aware of to take me of my path, but perhaps my significant other did..... and quite possibly, because my significant other did, perhaps now there is work to be done by the significant other, in order to reconnect to my path.  In addition, because we are now on two separate paths, perhaps there is work that I must do, to make sure that I stay on this path so that my significant other can join me when his/her work is done!  So, that being said, I know I have had to develop a more patient attitude.  I have to continue to think postively.  If I don't then perhaps the Universe determines that I am not ready.  So if that is all true a delay can be caused by either or both of us.

I specifically would like to know why many psychics are off with timing, since this is a biggie for many.

wait, you KNOW cookie? Tell us more. Honestly, that is the vibe that I get from most readers, and I honestly think it is part of the reason why they are so innacurate. Ive read that Cookie is also slow in readings as well.

No, I never said I knew her. I called and we talked about a reading, which never happened.  If you email Cookie, she has an assistant (which I found out later) and some things transpired, which made me say what I did. Cookie may be all that and a basket of strawberries, but I will never get a reading from her. She is on my avoid list, but she comes highly rated on this forum, so good luck. (EDIT: The Cookie I was referencing has her own site, not Cookie Spiritualist Reader on Keen.)

I too have felt that psychics are dishonest, but not ALL can be placed in the same pot of boiling water. I've talked to some that were very helpful and instrumental in helping me see the light of day and there are many who are either generous with their time or generous with their knowledge. It's all a crap shoot.

[sunandmoon]

I think this is where the "dreaded free will" comes in and most good psychics will make sure to mention that.  My take on a reading is a forecast of probability given that the emotions and situation does not change.  Change can be anything - a new person, as in your case, impatience on the part of the querent, also in your case, or some opportunity that crosses the path of the subject of your query.  Which is why when psychics predict timeframes that are way out, in terms of many months or years, no matter what their predicted outcome might be, you have to take it with a grain of salt and remember that the more time that passes, the more influence free will might have on the situation.

It's been 2.5 years. I think I was more than patient. Like I said, at some point you just have to say, it ain't happening. And again, if they were truly predicting the future - they would have seen this!

I had one prediction that included a phrase "and I wouldn't be surprised if X asks you to marry her/him then" in my goodie bag of readings.  Frankly, in my opinion, I don't need a psychic to predict that to me.  Just get me to the "outcome" which is in the relationship and back on track, and we'll take it from there. Now, of course, if your reader was a clairaudient and he/she heard the significant other precticing his proposal speech, then that's another idea.  In my opinion, the term marriage in readings is another way for psychics to demonstrate the depth of intention of the subject.  In other words, if there is a reconnection, it's not going to be a flash in the pan.

Right, and I got those too, and "you're destined to be together" etc etc