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Furah2fun

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Re: Disappointed
« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2012, 11:28:19 PM »
@sunandmoon...(btw I love that name)....did any prediction with respect to your ex manifest at all in the 2.5 years?

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Re: Disappointed
« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2012, 11:44:23 PM »
I just went back to your earlier post, and it seems that if I am reading it correctly, you were given timeframes that came and passed over the 2.5 years, correct?  That is a little different than what I was saying.  I was referring to a situation where readers predict something will happen in a year or so, and to bear in mind that the outcome could be affected by free will of either or both parties.  If I am understanding your situation, that was not the case.  It was more along the lines of getting a short-term prediction that passed, and then being given revised timeframes. Is that correct?
I think this is where the "dreaded free will" comes in and most good psychics will make sure to mention that.  My take on a reading is a forecast of probability given that the emotions and situation does not change.  Change can be anything - a new person, as in your case, impatience on the part of the querent, also in your case, or some opportunity that crosses the path of the subject of your query.  Which is why when psychics predict timeframes that are way out, in terms of many months or years, no matter what their predicted outcome might be, you have to take it with a grain of salt and remember that the more time that passes, the more influence free will might have on the situation.

It's been 2.5 years. I think I was more than patient. Like I said, at some point you just have to say, it ain't happening. And again, if they were truly predicting the future - they would have seen this!

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Re: Disappointed
« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2012, 11:53:59 PM »
The push backs of occurrences or time span increases, doesn't really answer the question does it?  If I'm tempted to cause a delay intentional or not, whether on my side or the other person in question, wouldn't this too be a prediction that could be seen?  Shouldn’t I be warned not to do such and such if I want the outcome to happen?  I want the outcome more than anything, why would I cause a sabotage?

I've heard readers say that too if you get too many readings, it will disrupt the outcome, and confuse the guides. Confuse them how?  Aren’t they on a higher plane of existence, so as to know more than I about a given situation?  How are they guiding me, if they continue to push the timing of events back and back and back? Then the next thing I know, I've waited over two years for an event to transpire.  I don't know. This sounds more like default verbiage inaccurate psychics tend to give.

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Re: Disappointed
« Reply #48 on: September 04, 2012, 12:00:39 AM »
@sunandmoon...(btw I love that name)....did any prediction with respect to your ex manifest at all in the 2.5 years?

I had correct dates of contact here and there, that's about it

I just went back to your earlier post, and it seems that if I am reading it correctly, you were given timeframes that came and passed over the 2.5 years, correct?  That is a little different than what I was saying.  I was referring to a situation where readers predict something will happen in a year or so, and to bear in mind that the outcome could be affected by free will of either or both parties.  If I am understanding your situation, that was not the case.  It was more along the lines of getting a short-term prediction that passed, and then being given revised timeframes. Is that correct?

I've had it all. Timeframes of days, weeks, months, and yes even 18 month timeframes.

Some were revised, some stood firm. None were correct.

BTW I have not had a reading in about a year. Final time frames were for this past spring. I will highly guess that if I were to call again (or if I never stopped), they'd continually be pushed out every 2-3 months as they always were. I was getting readings from June 2010 - Sept 2011

And what's the difference in a prediction being changed if it's short or long term? If you buy into the free-will camp (which it seems you do by the above quote), free will can change anything at anytime. It's not just for long term predictions.
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Furah2fun

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Re: Disappointed
« Reply #49 on: September 04, 2012, 12:07:42 AM »
That's horrible!!! Dates of contacts only, sigh.  It would be nice if the psychics could just be accurate and tell the truth.

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Re: Disappointed
« Reply #50 on: September 04, 2012, 12:18:02 AM »
I'm not in support of the theory that spirit guides punish us for asking too many questions.  I believe that there can be feasible reasons for delays.  One is the way timing is predicted.  The second is that there may be lessons to be learned before an event is to be realized, and one or both parties are not learning whatever thay are to learn quickly enough for the timeframes to be met.

In terms of timing, my experience is that readers are given numbers most often.  The interpretation of those numbers is very loose.  A "2" can be February, or 2 weeks, 2 daya, 2 months from now.  Or in 2 day, 2 weeks, or 2 months - or on the 2nd of the month or any day in the month with a 2 init.  You get what I mean.  We are really at the readers mercy to be able to decipher what it is.

I recall a reading with Dr. Ginny a few weeks back.  The timelines she gave for my outcome were so way off all of my other readings, that I was alarmed.  I decided to ask her what message she received.  She said, "I was given a 10" and "month"...and so she justified with me how she interpretted that as the "outcome" would occur in 10 months.  I still wasn't convinced that this was the only interpretation, so I said to her "Well couldn't your message also indicate October?" (that was in line with all of my other readings, by the way).  Her answer was , "No, I got a 10 and then the word month".  Well, I am in no position to question Dr. Ginny, in fact, she comes well recommended by some, but at the end of the call, I simply couldn't accept that her message was interpretted in the only way it could have been.  Of course I did not mention it to Ginny.  I simply ended the call and thanked her.

In my mind, if a spirit guide give a "10" and "month" it is quite feasible that is could be the 10th month, or October.  However, Dr. Ginny and I differ on that.

The push backs of occurrences or time span increases, doesn't really answer the question does it?  If I'm tempted to cause a delay intentional or not, whether on my side or the other person in question, wouldn't this too be a prediction that could be seen?  Shouldn’t I be warned not to do such and such if I want the outcome to happen?  I want the outcome more than anything, why would I cause a sabotage?

I've heard readers say that too if you get too many readings, it will disrupt the outcome, and confuse the guides. Confuse them how?  Aren’t they on a higher plane of existence, so as to know more than I about a given situation?  How are they guiding me, if they continue to push the timing of events back and back and back? Then the next thing I know, I've waited over two years for an event to transpire.  I don't know. This sounds more like default verbiage inaccurate psychics tend to give.

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Re: Disappointed
« Reply #51 on: September 04, 2012, 01:00:31 AM »
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I'm not in support of the theory that spirit guides punish us for asking too many questions.  I believe that there can be feasible reasons for delays.  One is the way timing is predicted.  The second is that there may be lessons to be learned before an event is to be realized, and one or both parties are not learning whatever thay are to learn quickly enough for the timeframes to be met.

In terms of timing, my experience is that readers are given numbers most often.  The interpretation of those numbers is very loose.  A "2" can be February, or 2 weeks, 2 daya, 2 months from now.  Or in 2 day, 2 weeks, or 2 months - or on the 2nd of the month or any day in the month with a 2 init.  You get what I mean.  We are really at the readers mercy to be able to decipher what it is.

I recall a reading with Dr. Ginny a few weeks back.  The timelines she gave for my outcome were so way off all of my other readings, that I was alarmed.  I decided to ask her what message she received.  She said, "I was given a 10" and "month"...and so she justified with me how she interpretted that as the "outcome" would occur in 10 months.  I still wasn't convinced that this was the only interpretation, so I said to her "Well couldn't your message also indicate October?" (that was in line with all of my other readings, by the way).  Her answer was , "No, I got a 10 and then the word month".  Well, I am in no position to question Dr. Ginny, in fact, she comes well recommended by some, but at the end of the call, I simply couldn't accept that her message was interpretted in the only way it could have been.  Of course I did not mention it to Ginny.  I simply ended the call and thanked her.

In my mind, if a spirit guide give a "10" and "month" it is quite feasible that is could be the 10th month, or October.  However, Dr. Ginny and I differ on that.

Yes, I completely agree on the interpretation and have read twice with Dr. G. Some of her predictions did not happen and some are coming up for Nov/Dec.  I have my doubts about the upcoming ones only because the previous ones didn't pan out.  I'm disappointed in her (thread aptly titled) in the way she wasn't open minded about the 10 month interpretation for you. I can totally see both sides. I don't understand why she naturally assumed she was right without question and that is the way it is period.  It really doesn't make sense, especially knowing the difficulty of pinpointing time.  Couldn't it also have been the 10 day of the month your reading was in?

I also completely agreed (the way timing is predicted). Psychics often know they are wrong about predictions so I don't understand why they aren't taking better measures to assess how they can be better at their jobs.  If you are wrong at something, wouldn't you want to work more diligently to try and correct your mistake(s) so that others have a much better experience?  I’m only saying.

There are many experts in the field of whatever, but it doesn’t mean they are never wrong and it certainly doesn’t mean that they have all the answers. Practice doesn’t make perfect…it makes permanence.

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Re: Disappointed
« Reply #52 on: September 04, 2012, 01:39:35 AM »
I'm not a sole proponent of free will cause delays, but I suppose it can.  It has to be something really unexpected, though, otherwise I agree that the psychic should have/could have detected the potential at the time of the reading.

However, the longer timeframe between reading and predicted outcome, the greater the opportunity that something really unforeseen and unexpected can occur.  That is not to say, that in a short time frame the same is not possible, but it is less probable and probability is what is at issue with all psychic predictions, I think.
@sunandmoon...(btw I love that name)....did any prediction with respect to your ex manifest at all in the 2.5 years?

I had correct dates of contact here and there, that's about it

I just went back to your earlier post, and it seems that if I am reading it correctly, you were given timeframes that came and passed over the 2.5 years, correct?  That is a little different than what I was saying.  I was referring to a situation where readers predict something will happen in a year or so, and to bear in mind that the outcome could be affected by free will of either or both parties.  If I am understanding your situation, that was not the case.  It was more along the lines of getting a short-term prediction that passed, and then being given revised timeframes. Is that correct?

I've had it all. Timeframes of days, weeks, months, and yes even 18 month timeframes.

Some were revised, some stood firm. None were correct.

BTW I have not had a reading in about a year. Final time frames were for this past spring. I will highly guess that if I were to call again (or if I never stopped), they'd continually be pushed out every 2-3 months as they always were. I was getting readings from June 2010 - Sept 2011

And what's the difference in a prediction being changed if it's short or long term? If you buy into the free-will camp (which it seems you do by the above quote), free will can change anything at anytime. It's not just for long term predictions.

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Re: Disappointed
« Reply #53 on: September 04, 2012, 02:43:51 AM »
 :) Way to go sunandmoon!!!
Weird but I also started to get readings in (June 2010 to my last reading in January 4th 2012). Same thing happened my Ex and I never reconnected as a couple. I also think the same way...if I were to be calling again time frames would be pushed away...I am more calm now that I don't expect things to happen... 

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Re: Disappointed
« Reply #54 on: September 04, 2012, 10:54:39 AM »
:) Way to go sunandmoon!!!
Weird but I also started to get readings in (June 2010 to my last reading in January 4th 2012). Same thing happened my Ex and I never reconnected as a couple. I also think the same way...if I were to be calling again time frames would be pushed away...I am more calm now that I don't expect things to happen...

You are coming up on your one year mark as well - congrats!

I started to calm down a lot by summer of 2011. Readings didn't change, he talked to me less, I got better.

I am finally getting my finances under control so as much as I am sometimes tempted to call for entertainment purposes only, I refrain - what's the point? I believe whatever is going to happen will, and I've seen that future predictions really don't come true.

What really helped me was after I joined here and saw so many of the same stories with timelines and the way reconciliation dates seem to go in patterns. Right now most seem to be getting Sept/Oct predictions. I had already stopped talking to those that did pure astrology for that reason.

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Re: Disappointed
« Reply #55 on: October 04, 2012, 05:11:41 PM »
Just wanted to chime in on this discussion with a bit of information that I received from a reader that explained "free will" a little better to me.  I had always thought it referred to someone changing the course of things due to a change in mindset.  And in fact, it's not really far off from that.  I can't think of a generic example of this other than if a person has always dreamed of being an artist - an loves art - in fact is passionate about art, but does not follow that career path because inherent in being an artist there are dips and vales in income.  In this case, while a career in the art industry might be their passion, intellectually they are obstacles to pursuit of that career.  A person might justify why a career in art is not a wise choice. 

Actually, I am thinking now that it is more akin to a person not listening to their inner voice for one or more reasons.  Let's consider that a reading, I am told, is picking up on the energy of the emotions and disposition of the person(s) involved - what lies in their heart.  That reading indicates the probable outcome given their dispositions...with a projected course mapped out based on those dispositions.  Now, it is possible for a person to have or hold something in their heart, which can be detected in a reading, but quite something else in their head.  If the person chooses to opt to act on the thoughts they have and chooses not to listen to their heart, then it's possible that the predicted outcome can change. 

I hope I got it right! What are your thoughts?

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Re: Disappointed
« Reply #56 on: October 04, 2012, 05:57:18 PM »
Newly, did Kisha say you had to contact him to reconcile? It it should happen regardless?

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Re: Disappointed
« Reply #57 on: January 23, 2013, 02:58:58 AM »
I agree most psychics are off with timing. But I have stopped asking about timing. Because than I start expecting it, and I think when you start to expect it , the universe delays it.